AYURVEDA CURES LEUKEMIA and MDS

[Vaidyan]

Probably, Ayurveda is the only remedy that cures leukemia with out side effects, especially AML, APML, MDS, granulocytic sarcoma and lymphoma. Chemotherapy is not required. While modern man made medicine is capable to provide only remission, survival period mostly short term, with medication/chemo/radiation afflicting bad side effects, and disease relapsing, how is it if the ancient Indian remedy cures leukemia! Ayurveda leukemia treatment works much faster than all other treatments. Blast count comes down to 0% level and bone marrow starts functioning normal. BMT/SCT is much inferior than Vedic healing when the efficacy of treatment and the harsh negative effects that the new age treatments often give to physiology are rationally overviewed. One is giving Punarnava (new life) and the other one is giving miseries and darkness. One is giving complete perfect recovery, the other one temporary remission. One is good, the other poor.

This healing program is based on the oldest tradition of knowledge in human history, the Vedic tradition of India. Maharishis and masters have handed down the Vedic knowledge from generation to generation for thousands of years.

(I am a Vaidya, and writing this with dew diligence. Glad to extend support to newly diagnosed patients, patients in remission and those on wait for BMT. Relapsed diseases, secondaries and GVHD are of course hard to treat. Each patient should be taken care of in person independently. Regular observation is essential. Formulations processing is elaborate.)

[S001]

Are you certain there are no side effects?

[Susan L]

Can you give more information regarding this? What type of treatment is it?

[Vaidyan]

Please ask any questions that you want to ask me. I am eager to answer.

Hello Susan L, Ayurveda is a complete science developed in ancient India. Maharishis developed this supreme science through yogavidhya, dhyana and bhahma njana. Ayur means ayus or life, and veda means science: so this is science of life. Please try to have a glance towards abundance of info available in the net.

To answer to S001 regarding concern about side effects, apart from addressing cancer, this healing program resolves other symptomatic and systemic ailment conditions that the patient may be having. This happens because the treatment is efficient enough to reconstruct physiology giving transformation in cellular level. One should compare this level of excellence with modern day situation that bone marrow related malignancy is confusing disease and research is so far failing to give right answers.

[Birgitta-A]

Hi S001,
Unfortunately there are no drugs that contains so much heavy metals, pesticides and bacteria as Ayuerveda drugs:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2008/2008_73-eng.php
Be careful!

Then we have had members of this forum from India looking for treatment for themself or for parents obviously without finding anything effective in their own country.
kind regards
Birgitta-A

[riccd2001]

Thanks Brigitta for quickly posting the reliable warning at the HC link...

[Neil Cuadra]

The U.S. National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (http://nccam.nih.gov/) provides an Introduction to Ayurvedic Medicine (http://nccam.nih.gov/health/ayurveda/introduction.htm) that describes the approach, terminology, and treatment practices and gives cautions such as the lack of rigorous research.

Be sure to discuss all treatments -- conventional, complementary, and alternative -- with your physician.

[S001]

@Birgitta-A - The link isn't working though. Could you re-post the study?

@Neil Cuadra - Definitely. Point noted.

[Birgitta-A]

Hi S001,
The link is OK in my pc but here is the info:
"Health Canada Reminds Consumers That Some Ayurvedic Medicinal Products Contain High Levels of Heavy Metals Information Update
2008-73

OTTAWA - Health Canada is reminding consumers who choose to use unapproved Ayurvedic medicinal products that some of these products may contain high levels of heavy metals. Consumption of excessive amounts of heavy metals, such as lead, mercury, and arsenic, pose serious health risks because they may accumulate in vital organs of the body. Children are most susceptible to the toxic effects of heavy metals.

In March 2008, a domestic case of heavy metal poisoning was published in the British Columbia Medical Journal, involving an adult male with symptoms of vomiting and diarrhea. The patient had been taking one tablet daily of the unauthorized Ayurvedic product Puspadhanva Rasa over a number of years to "increase vigour". Puspadhanva Rasa is manufactured by the Shri Dhanwantri Ayurvedic Pharmacy in India. The patient purchased this product in India and imported it into Canada for personal use. The product was found to contain extremely high levels of lead, mercury and arsenic.

The toxic effects of lead may include abdominal pain, anaemia, changes in blood pressure, reproductive effects, weakness, concentration problems, weight loss, insomnia, dizziness, kidney and brain damage. The toxic effects of mercury may include irritability, tremors, memory loss, insomnia, and concentration problems. Mercury can permanently damage the brain and kidneys. The toxic effects of arsenic may include skin and lung cancers, as well as heart and kidney disease and liver damage.

Ayurvedic medicinal products are used in traditional Indian healing practice and are often imported from India. According to the principles of Ayurvedic medicine, heavy metals may be used in a detoxified state in these medicinal products because of their presumed therapeutic properties. However, improper manufacturing processes may result in dangerously high levels of heavy metals in the final product.

Health Canada posted information on its website in March and July 2005, and in June and September 2006, to advise consumers that some Ayurvedic medicinal products may contain high levels of heavy metals.

Consumers should exercise caution when purchasing health products from outside Canada or over the Internet, as these products may not have undergone the same degree of assessment as those authorized for sale in Canada. Authorized health products will either bear an eight-digit Drug Identification Number (DIN), a Natural Product Number (NPN), or a Homeopathic Drug Number (DIN-HM). These numbers indicate that the product has been assessed by Health Canada for safety, efficacy and quality."

We have similar warnings in Sweden about heavy metals, pesticides and bacteria - for example coli bacteria.
Kind regards
Birgitta-A
Kind regards
Birgitta-A

[S001]

Thanks for the re-post Birgitta. Quite helpful.

And Vaidyan, it's true that faulty manufacturing processes can make even innocuous herbs dangerous. So how are the medicines that you prescribe prepared?

And how could one know about the genuiness of your medicines as well as the treatment for leukemia, MDS etc?

[Vaidyan]

Thanks to every body participating in the discussion.

There are thousands of different formulations in Ayurveda in which heavy metals never come as ingredients. Siddha vaidyam, controversy prevails if branch of Ayurveda or independent science, prescribes lot about alchemy medicines.

While Ayurveda, though the purest healing science, is attracting skeptical approaches from people who are totally unfamiliar to it, here is an attempt to describe more.

Rasayanas are a class of formulations in Ayurveda, and immune - modulating drugs, formulated by sages of ancient times to improve the body's resistance power against diseases. Other benefits are longevity, improved memory power, health, sensory function and luster. These other benefits are in fact positive side effects, the way allopathy (unconventional Western medicines) give bad or negative side effects. Ayurveda promises immediate addressing for fatal diseases and long term betterment for degenerative chronic conditions. Personal closer observation and naadi reading – traditional pulse analysis in relation to constitutional thridoshas – is required in each and every cases to fix accurate treatment plan. Ayurveda treatment includes oral medicines, marma tantra, and application of medicated oil, necessary de-toxication program through virechana, regenerative treatments and tissue relaxation. Superior formulations are administered to treat different difficult diseases. Intricate course of repeated refining, elaborate processing and enrichment of formulations make these medicines superior to all other medicines and they work in a highly efficient manner. A patient recovering from a disease under such treatment is like a new physical being, with the body undergoing total regeneration. Maharishis and masters have handed down this Vedic knowledge from generation to generation. Many of this knowledge have been lost over time. However abundance of unique remedies still survive with indigenous Vaidyas scattered in the Indian rural. A master practitioner with such a linage of ancient tradition can successfully treat difficult disease conditions.

Plan of Treatment: Examination of the patient: constitution, abnormality, essence, stability, body measurements, diet suitability, psychic strength, digestive capacity and physical fitness. The study of the vital pressure points or marma is of special importance. Pacifying the aggravated doshas by using appropriate diet, natural herbs and minerals, eliminating the increased doshas from the body and Agadatantram (de-toxication).

Kayachiktsa (internal medicine) and observing the effect of therapeutic procedures, and the pathological process. From hundreds of herbal formulations are employed, what is required for specific disease conditions of a an individual patient is oushadhavidhi. Some animal products may also be used, for example milk, bones and gallstones (Gorochana in Sanscrit, Niu –Huang in Chinise - means treasure of cows). The practice of adding minerals as prescribed to herbal medicine is known as Rasa Shastra.


As internal medicines are continueing, Panchakarma and marma vidya may be started. Nasya, vamana, virechana, swedana, rakthamoshana – the five fold therapy is aimed at the eradication of basic cause of disease. The proper function of channels—tubes that exist within the body and transport fluids from one point to another—is seen as vital, and the lack of healthy channels may lead to disease and insanity. The blockages of these channels may lead to marrow disorders, rheumatism, epilepsy, and convulsions . Treatment consists of oil therapy, abhyanga and fomentation therapy. Snehana (internal and external oleation) is to loosen the aama that stuck in various sites of the body. This is administeration of thyla or gritha to the body. The sneha is given with herbs tailored to what the practitioner believes will help a specific client's disease.

Diet: Organic vegetarian meals, which will be varied and easily digestible is the basic recommendation. There are many different phases during a full course of cancer treatment, and during consultation a suitable dietary plan to be followed will be organised.

Vaidyan
Member - Bharathiya Ayurveda Parampariya Vaidya Federation.
Indian Board of Alternative medicine.

[S001]

Thank you for that Vaidyan.

[Neel]

Hey vaidyan give me ur id and where can i get this treatment ?

[Vaidyan]

Neel,

please go through www.vaidyamedha.com

[S001]

For anybody looking for more information on Ayurvedic treatment for MDS, visit - www.padaav.com.

The founder of this Speciality Ayurvedic Treatment Centre has previously successfully treated and cured (so I've been told) MDS patients. Bone marrow forums member Neel's father has been responding to this treatment as well. Worth a look up for sure.

[sherin]

My father (72 yrs) in India was diagnosed with 4th stage lymphoma in last September. His physical condition became very bad, with free fluid in the abdomen. We feared that he was not going to withstand with strong chemotherapy. Doctors were not giving much hope, too. So we opted for an Ayurveda treatment which was heard to be given by Vaidya James in Cochin.

The result was amazing. How incredible the ancient Vedic science! After 4 months of treatment, dad is recovered from the disease. Also he has regained his physical wellness. (I had a nice vacation with my family, now returning to the work place in Bordeaux, France with much relief seeing dad safe again.)

(I would put this as a new post too)

[S001]

Ayurvedic Medicine Formulations from India Reviewed for Cancer Treatment, at the NCI (National Cancer Institute). Read here (http://www.cancer.gov/cam/newsletter/2010-fall/fall2010_OCCAM_newsletter_home.html).

[navn29]

I've been to their faculty in DEHRA-DOON in India....jus was not impressed. I met their leading Doctor.....but he was so hopeless....infact d faculty did nt impress me. They may hv had success stories bt they nvr askd d patients to stop their allopathic medicines.I m nt against AYURVEDA...dat's my cultural heritage bt most of des centers claiming to hv cure fr cancers, I don't think so hv substantial ground results

[navn29]

Can u gv me some contact info of d ayurvedic doc who treated ur father.....it wld b a gr8 help.Howz ur dad doin nw...hope he's fine!!

[pvinod]

Vaidyan, can you treat Aplastic Anemia?

[Pezcubano]

Sherrin,
My mother was diagnosed with MDS last week and we are looking for alternative treatments for her. Your father's experience seems very interesting and I'm sure would apply to her. How can I get in touch?
Thanks

[srikanth_srgm]

Dear Sir,

We hail from pious Brahmin family, residing at Srirangam.
My father is having clean habits and is having good physique. He has no other health problems like BP, Sugar and all his organs are functioning OK. He is aged 72. Till last year (in his career) he had not undergone any allopathic therapies. He used to take Aswagandha lehyam, Arjunarishtam and Daamoolarishtam etc., based on recommendation from local Ayurvedic physicians / shops.

During Dec’ 11, he was having cough and slight fever and he was anemic, and was diagnosed to have Tuberculosis and was treated for the same. (for three and a half months).
Recently, first week of April 2012, it was identified that he is having Blood Cancer (Acute Myeloid Leukemia).
We have not started the intense chemothraphy (being afraid of the side effects).

We have started palliative Chemotheraphy and is being administered Ara-c 40 mg since April 19th 2012 for 21 days.

Is there any possibility of curing using your medicines?

What is the duration of treatment, sucess rate, cost?
Is there any AML patients who have been cured by your medicines?


With Regards,

S.Srikanth
Tiruchiraqpalli - 620006
srikanths09@rediffmail.com

[Ved]

My father in law, aged 77 years from Bangalore,India is suffering from MDS with 10% blasts and every 2 weeks once transfusing RBC & platelets. He had undergone hear surgery (CABG) 7 years back and subsequently left ventricle dysfunction recently. Because of all all these issues, Doctor has advised his against chemotherapy and only supportive care.

So, I am looking for Ayurvedic treatment to cure MDS and support his heart issues. Any body can suggest a good doctor who has a successful history regarding this. You may also email me @ vedaprakashg@gmail.com.

Thanks for your help.

[joesmith]

It appears that Mr Vaidyan has managed to get a strong clientele of foreign patients and now he charges astronomical prices that are for sure out of the reach of the common man in India. Examples include demanding INR 10,000 (equivalent to $175 to $200) for a 10-day experimental treatment with no clarity on what the total treatment will cost. It is sad that patients and their loved ones are already undergoing so much physical and mental torture and then to have the stress of an unknown treatment with unknown costs is just not humane!!

[freedomforever]

How did you know? Did you have a direct experience with James Vaidyan for you to say that he is charging too much? Considering the cost of the conventional treatment of MDS or AML, and other blood and bone marrow diseases which would cost hundreds of thousands if not millions, what he is charging at $200 (provided your claim is true), is actually nothing compared to the hospital costs.

Better that you share your experience/s here than giving seemingly partial opinions. TIA!

[Mseth]

Freedomforever, are you trying any ayurvedic treatment with success?

[joesmith]

How did you know? Did you have a direct experience with James Vaidyan for you to say that he is charging too much? Considering the cost of the conventional treatment of MDS or AML, and other blood and bone marrow diseases which would cost hundreds of thousands if not millions, what he is charging at $200 (provided your claim is true), is actually nothing compared to the hospital costs.

Better that you share your experience/s here than giving seemingly partial opinions. TIA!

Hello There - I know because I have had direct contact with James Vaidyan and went through the experience. I used the word "seems" as each case and treatment is different. Remember MDS is not a disease but relates to a collection of blood-related diseases. I just wanted to "alert" members of this forum trying to find alternate treatments for their loved ones of the associated costs but I did not want to "discourage" anybody that can afford it. As for the costs, I also clearly indicated that the common man in India cannot afford Ayurveda medicines costing Rs. 1000 per day. However Mr Vidyan has several clients mostly foreign nationals on medical tourism or NRI's who can easily afford his treatment. Probably his treatment is also working but I do not know for sure and cannot comment on that.

I also totally agree that for people who can afford, in your words "hundreds of thousands if not millions", $200 is pocket-change- nothing more than a drop in the ocean.

My loved one is battling MDS but we are unable to afford James Vaidyan's experimental treatment at this stage. "hundreds of thousands if not millions" and/or Rs. 1000/day for an experimental treatment which in Mr Vaidyan's own words may not work, is beyond our humble means.

This was my personal experience with Mr Vaidyan's treatment. We look forward to your "complete opinions" on how this treatment including costs worked in your case. Peace!

[Mseth]

Hi Joesmith,

Thanks for sharing your experience with Vaidyan. Since there are very limited options for treatment for MDS, like many others, I am also always on the lookout for any treatment that may give some benefit. And are willing to try experimental treatment also as long as there is no harm.
If you have any further details on the proposed length and type of treatment suggested by him, and if Vaidyan has been able to cure or improve any other MDS case, please do share the iformation. It will be of great help to me and maybe some others as well.

[joesmith]

Hi Joesmith,

Thanks for sharing your experience with Vaidyan. Since there are very limited options for treatment for MDS, like many others, I am also always on the lookout for any treatment that may give some benefit. And are willing to try experimental treatment also as long as there is no harm.
If you have any further details on the proposed length and type of treatment suggested by him, and if Vaidyan has been able to cure or improve any other MDS case, please do share the iformation. It will be of great help to me and maybe some others as well.

Hi Mseth - Firstly I hope your mom is doing well. I have not tried Vaidyan's treatment as I could not afford it so I cannot comment on the effectiveness of his treatment. However I did connect with few of his patients successfully treated by him and they were complimentary of his treatment. Vaidyan did mention that his medicines are effective for patients with primary MDS versus those with secondary MDS. Each one's case is different so I am not sure what kind of condition your mom is dealing with. Feel free to reach out to me privately if you would like to discuss further. Will be glad to share any information that may help you. Good luck!

[Mseth]

Hi Joesmith,

Thanks for responding. Have sent you a pm.

[joesmith]

Hi Joesmith,

Thanks for responding. Have sent you a pm.

Havent received any private message from you yet!

[joesmith]

Havent received any private message from you yet!

Sorry got your pm and have responded. Good luck!

[Bambam]

While I would dearly love to believe that Ayurveda can cure my MDS/Acute Myeloid Leukemia, I don't.
I've felt desperate at times, anxious to try anything - and believe me, well-meaning people have suggested everything, from Ayurvedic medicine, mountain plants (boiled in water), Cannabis oil, almond kernel oil and other alternative treatments. Ayurvedic treatment is known to include high levels of metal - not a good idea for somebody with bone marrow cancer. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15598918
Although I have for the most part followed a healthy life, consuming good quality food, no alcohol and minimal caffeine, minimal medications, lots of walking and maintaining a healthy body weight, I have had to place myself in the trust of highly qualified doctors, scientists, who know more about the bone marrow than any alternative practitioner will ever know.
I know how desperate one is to find a cure for these dreadful conditions, but I also know that only God and a good Hematologist can effect the best outcome for me.

[Mseth]

Hi Bambam,

Thanks for the link.
Yes, its the desperation to find a way out that leads us to exploring and experimenting. Whats the choice in a MDS situation, little or no treatment options, no estimation of disease progression, so little known about anything. Its just a crazy flurry of blood tests, injections, appointments, and transfusions. Its now almost a year since my mother's diagnosis, and every month we hope there will be some improvement or something will make a difference, but at the end of the day nothing helps to improve the red cell count.
Its good that you have settled with one form of treatment and have peace on that front at least.
Alll the best to you!!

[ravik]

Hi Joe,
My name is Ravi from Bangalore, India. I recently diagnosed with deletion 20q chromosome abnormalities in 35% of cells in my bone marrow. I am desperately looking for Ayurveda treatment. In your post you mentioned that you spoke with some people who got treated successfully with Vaidyan's treatment.

I request you to send those details to my email id ravikumar.pelluru@gmail.com.

You are the only one I know who got some info regarding Ayurveda treatment for MDS. You are my ray of hope now. So please send me some info.

Thanking you
ravi

[Bambam]

Hello Ravi,
I can understand your wanting to try something that is believed to cure MDS. However, I urge you to read all the cautions in the preceding posts. And to ask yourself, where is the scientific PROOF of a cure? I love the concept of alternative therapies but have learned to err on the side of science primarily, with a little help from scientifically proven supplements, e.g. Omega 3, Vitamin D (we don't have as much sun as Bangalore!) and a multi vitamin that does not contain iron or zinc.
I wish you only the very best and hope you will take the time to read the literature.
Warm wishes,
Bam bam:)

[ravik]

Hi BamBam,
Thank u for warning me about Ayurveda treatment. As long as the medicine contains only herbal products then I would like to give a try. But I have to think about the cost. Rs.30,000 is too much for one month medicine.

[Birgitta-A]

Hi All,
There are no herbal products that can contain so much heavy metals (lead), pesticides and bacteria as ayurvedic medicinal products. Be careful!

Then I think all of us understand that ayurvedic medicinal products never cure leukemia. If this was true this forum wouldn't have any patients from India but we have many persons with MDS from this country.
Kind regards
Birgitta-A

[Bambam]

Hi All,...

... Then I think all of us understand that ayurvedic medicinal products never cure leukemia. If this was true this forum wouldn't have any patients from India but we have many persons with MDS from this country.
Kind regards
Birgitta-A

Hi Birgitta, please clarify what you mean. Not only do I have MDS but I also have secondary AML, so am trying to understand what you mean, for every comment matters to me. Thanks

[Bambam]

Hi BamBam,
Thank u for warning me about Ayurveda treatment. As long as the medicine contains only herbal products then I would like to give a try. But I have to think about the cost. Rs.30,000 is too much for one month medicine.

Hi Ravi,
Please understand that the earth in which herbs grow will affect the quality of the plant. It follows, then, that herbs grown in toxic soil will produce toxic plants. Therefore, all things "herbal" are not necessarily good for us. Do you have a reputable and reliable hematologist?

[joesmith]

Hi Joe,
My name is Ravi from Bangalore, India. I recently diagnosed with deletion 20q chromosome abnormalities in 35% of cells in my bone marrow. I am desperately looking for Ayurveda treatment. In your post you mentioned that you spoke with some people who got treated successfully with Vaidyan's treatment.

I request you to send those details to my email id ravikumar.pelluru@gmail.com. If you have skype id, please share with me so that we can talk over weekend. my skype id is ravipelluru.

You are the only one I know who got some info regarding Ayurveda treatment for MDS. You are my ray of hope now. So please send me some info.

Thanking you
ravi

Hi Ravik - Firstly I am so sorry to hear about your condition. I have shared your information with a very good friend of mine that will contact you shortly. Please stay strong. Several patients have been able to overcome and/or keep the disease in its tracks without letting it worsen. Things will work out. My friend will contact you on your private email shortly.

[Birgitta-A]

Hi Bambam,
You know there are so many research centers all over the world trying drugs for MDS. If ayurvedic medicinal products did cure leukemia or MDS researchers especially in India would try it.

In the US they actually look for herbs that can have a positive effect in cancer patients without being too toxic.
Kind regards
Birgitta-A

[joesmith]

Hi Bambam,
You know there are so many research centers all over the world trying drugs for MDS. If ayurvedic medicinal products did cure leukemia or MDS researchers especially in India would try it.

In the US they actually look for herbs that can have a positive effect in cancer patients without being too toxic.
Kind regards
Birgitta-A

Birgitta - It is not only in the US but also in India (and also the other countries such as Israel) researchers are looking for herbs and treatments that can have a positive desired effect without being toxic. This is not just something that is done in the US. Not sure what your experience or expertise is with India but I have traveled extensively and been to India a couple of times and can assert this from my personal experience.

[Chirley]

Hi Joe. My haem/Onc is Indian. He warned me specifically not to trust Indian medicine nor to have any treatment in India because they don't have the same Quality Control Laws and Guidelines as most other countries.

I have to trust that he knows what he's talking about.

Personally, I like to think that by using natural herbs and plants that effective treatments and cures will be found and if I was younger and terminal with no available scientifically tested and proven treatment available I might just be tempted to try natural remedies and alternative treatments but I don't think they should be the first line of treatment.

[ravik]

Hi Ravik - Firstly I am so sorry to hear about your condition. I have shared your information with a very good friend of mine that will contact you shortly. Please stay strong. Several patients have been able to overcome and/or keep the disease in its tracks without letting it worsen. Things will work out. My friend will contact you on your private email shortly.

Hi Joe,
Thank you for sharing my details with your friend. I am waiting for his reply.

Thanks
ravi

[ravik]

Hi Joe. My haem/Onc is Indian. He warned me specifically not to trust Indian medicine nor to have any treatment in India because they don't have the same Quality Control Laws and Guidelines as most other countries.

I have to trust that he knows what he's talking about.

Personally, I like to think that by using natural herbs and plants that effective treatments and cures will be found and if I was younger and terminal with no available scientifically tested and proven treatment available I might just be tempted to try natural remedies and alternative treatments but I don't think they should be the first line of treatment.

Hi Chirley,
As for as I know Ayurveda is an ancient science in India like Yoga. So I think we can't rule it out completely. I agree that at present it is being practiced by individuals who are not under any regulations. But now a days there are so many colleges that are teaching Ayurveda as a science. So I hope things will improve in future if Indian government takes some measures.

Thanks
ravi

[Chirley]

Ravi, I hope that there are strict regulations put in place too because I believe that like Chinese Medicine there has been thousands of years of wisdom and knowledge behind Ayurveda.

[Kathy S]

I think everyone wants the "miracle cure" out of desperation. I personally do not feel that the pharmaceutical companies have ever found a 'cure' for anything. Doctors cut out, burn with radiation or fill bodies with harmful chemicals in hopes of halting the progress of these horrible diseases. Whatever keeps the hope alive for anyone of us is a plus. Have just read Radical Remission..surviving cancer against all odds by Kelly A. Turner, PhD. I believe anything that works is worth trying. Life should be about no regrets.

[Marlene]

Radical Remission is on my reading list as well as the Doctor that Cures Cancer. I take it from your post, that it's worth it.

Thanks....M

[Kathy S]

I feel anything that has a possibility of 'HOPE" is worth looking into. Blessings and hope you find it interesting. Found that many of the things in Radical Remission are what my husband has done to put him into remission. How long it last is in Gods hands.

[Mseth]

Kathy S, wonderful that your husband is in remission, may he continue to be in good health!!

My mother has always relied on fresh, unprocessed food. She does not eat meat, drink or smoke. Yet she has MDS, many others on this forum mention that they were shocked at diagnosis because they led healthy lives. It seems MDS cases like hers is unlike other solid tumors which grow on a high sugar-meat-dairy-processed food diet. What can help my mothers MDS remains a mystery, we are trying everything in the low-toxic & alternative space but nothing seems to work. Hope is also running out. Maybe its time to finally give the toxic drugs a go!! Sorry, I wish I had something positive to report.

[riccd2001]

This thread has been ongoing for several years, and the TITLE is misleading. I think it's time to remind contributors that there is an updated link mentioned by Birgitta's comment "Unfortunately there are no drugs that contains so much heavy metals, pesticides and bacteria as Ayuerveda drugs... Be careful!" :cool:

http://www.healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/search-recherche/result-resultat/en?search_text_1=ayurveda

[Kathy S]

Wherever it is listed I still feel desperation will have people looking to alternatives, no matter what it is. I also believe people are just attempting to get more information to make a personal decision to what journey they want to take. Until a 'cure' is found no one should stop researching or looking. I really don't understand what difference it makes to where a response comes from or a if a TITLE is misleading, I was only responding to a message I saw. Sorry if not politically correct.

[tom30]

Kathy, Thanks for the reading recommendation, I put the book on order at the library it looks interesting. Just saw this article on vegetable intake, I've been eating what I thought was a insane amount of vegetables 1.5lbs a day (Taylor Farms Organic (Costco) Power Greens (Spinach, Kale, Chard) 1.5 lb Bag) it's 8 servings. I blend it in a nutri bullet and drink it. anyway here's the article...
People who eat seven or more portions of fresh fruits and vegetables each day may reduce their risk of dying from a wide variety of diseases by as much as 42 percent over people who consume less than one portion, according to a new study by British researchers who tracked the eating habits of more than 65,000 people for 12 years.

The study, released Monday evening in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, found that at any point over that period, people who ate seven or more portions of fruits and vegetables dropped their risk of death from cancer by 25 percent and from cardiovascular disease by 31 percent.

Consumption of vegetables and salad proved to have a greater “protective effect” than eating fresh fruit, and consuming canned fruits actually increased the statistical risk of death, according to the researchers at University College London. Fruit juices had no effect at all.

More remarkably, the researchers said they were able to quantify the health benefits per portion of fruits and vegetables consumed. One to three portions daily reduced the chance of death from any cause by 14 percent, three to five portions had a 29 percent impact, five to seven portions dropped the chances by 36 percent and seven or more portions produced a 42 percent decline in the risk of death. The benefits appeared to tail off at that level.

The study concluded that each daily portion of fresh vegetables reduced the overall risk of death by 16 percent. For salad, the benefit was 13 percent, and for fresh fruit it was 4 percent.

A news release issued by the university said the study is the first to quantify health benefits per-portion. In the study, however, the researchers were cautious to make clear that “this study has found a strong association, but not necessarily a causal relationship” between fresh fruit and vegetable intake and declining mortality. “There are additional unmeasured confounders not included in the analyses, including other aspects of diet. Total energy intake and salt consumption were not measured, and assessment of fat intake was not made in most years, and were therefore not included in these analyses,” the authors wrote.

They also noted that the results are based on people’s own reports of their eating habits, rather than observed data.

Nevertheless, the findings appear to provide strong support for increased consumption of vegetables and fruits that governments around the world, as well as the World Health Organization, have promoted for years.

“We all know that eating fruit and vegetables is healthy, but the size of the effect is staggering,” Oyinlola Oyebode, the study’s lead researcher, said in a prepared statement.

The results take into account sex, age, cigarette smoking, social class, Body Mass Index, education, physical activity and alcohol intake. They did not count deaths that occurred within a year of the food survey. The researchers also noted that fruit and vegetable consumption is inversely related to household income.

[Marlene]

Kathy,

I don't feel your post was politically incorrect at all. Many have found a way to integrate western medicine and natural approaches to improve their health keeping their disease in check. And from what I can see, Radical Remission is another tool that can benefit people no matter what path they choose.

So glad your husband has been able to maintain his health.

[Kathy S]

Tom, I find your information very interesting and a belief that I have. I remember when they used to say 'you are what you eat'. When you take a look at increase of diseases today, and the relationship of money being more important than health to the large business and fast food being consumed today I think it can a relative reason. My husbands MDS is now being looked at as contaminated water while he was stationed at Camp LeJeun in the Marines and benzene being in the water.
He just had an appointment today at Moffit Cancer Center and I have noticed that over the last three months his counts have started to drop and today his platelets went into the 50's. Next week he will have a BMB done. He had excellent results after two months of Vidaza putting him into total remission. I had him on a juicing diet of Organic veggies and fruits, supplements, no beer and very limited sugar and no coffee. Around the holiday he became more lax on such his diet and started to add things back into it. I noticed in January his counts started to change from excellent to dropping gradually each month. Dr. does not know if Vidaza has stopped working or itself is the reason his counts are down. Reason to BMB to see what is going on. He is going back onto restricted diet as of today. We will see. What you are doing can only enhance your strength. Good luck with all of it. Reading ' Radical Remission ' is only going to help the person who reads it and makes the changes. My husband has not read it, if you get what I mean. :-) Prayers are with you. Kathy

[Kathy S]

Marlene, Your response is appreciated and I feel Radical Remission has some good information in it that really should be common sense, but sometimes we just over look common sense.
We will see how my husband makes out next week. It is so difficult to hear the words you have heard before. Our faith remains strong to hear better things.

[jinsjohn]

Sherrin,
My mother was diagnosed with MDS last week and we are looking for alternative treatments for her. Your father's experience seems very interesting and I'm sure would apply to her. How can I get in touch?
Thanks

please share your details..

[cancerherbalist]

please share your details..

Ofcourse cancer cure is not an easy task. But there are many people who survive either with chemo / radio / alternate therapy. Each path has its own pros and cons. When legally no one can claim to cure CANCER, even the anticancer drugs approved to extend the life but not cure.

Here in Bangalore we offer turmeric and ginger based FOOD therapy with technological advancement. We don't claim cure, but if you are undergoing CTRT, it can provide multiple benefits of reducing hospital stay, pain, reduced drug requirement, reduced infection, increased efficacy of CTRT, reduced side effects of CTRT.

If you have doubt about CHEMO /RADIO success, you can include this Nutritional Therapy to increase the success rate.

If you don't have any option of therapy available, then also you can have best benefits.

The person working for this that is me; is not registered Ayurveda or Homeopathy or Sidda or Unani Physician. I am a pharmacologist cum Drug Discovery Scientist.

I don't charge any amount for consultation. I am more than happy to educate about the various alternate options available to save their life like

1. Ketogenic Therapy
2. Fasting Therapy
3. Alkalanising Therapy
4. Hyperthermia Therapy
5. Hyperbarric oxygen therapy
6. Anti angiogenic Therapy
7. Vitamin C Therapy
8. Anti-oxidants Therapy
9. Immunomodulator Therapy
10. Chilly Therapy

You can avail printouts of research reference articles or get them emailed after discussion.

There are many therapies which doesn't even cost a penny except learning. Don't give up the hope. My aim is to provide

HOPE WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE

You can call +91 88845 88835 if not answered, please leave message.

[Chirley]

I just saw a part of a documentary on TV last night (didn't catch the name) and it was proven in mice that fasting them for short periods of time increased their health/cognition/memory and life span.

That's why they recommend the 5/2 diet even in cancers. Eat normally but healthily for 5 days and then fast or greatly reduce your intake for two days every week with three minutes of very strenuous activity every day. No need for that one hour work out...just three minutes of very hard, full on strenuous activity every day. Lab results have shown remarkable results.

So some of the therapies mentioned by cancerherbalist are becoming more mainstream. I also heard that the Chilli one is good for warding off dementia.

[riccd2001]

The OP has used a TITLE that is untrue and certainly misleading! :mad: It would be nice if OP returned to this forum someday to revise that title to something believable.:cool:

[Chirley]

The OP?

[Bambam]

Is that short form for original poster?

[Marlene]

Hi Chirley,

We've been doing the 5/2 fasting since February. Lost weight but John's counts haven't really changed but then we did not do any blood work prior to starting. But stable is a good thing too. Did notice that his serum glucose has improved though. Anytime you improve your glucose levels and how your body handles insulin, you improve your health. I'll have to go back and look at past results. I had a spreadsheet with all the data on it but somehow, the file is "broken" so I have to see if I can recreate some of it.

Now we'll have to start the 3 minutes of exercise. HA! I should be able to that!

Thanks for posting.

Marlene

[sbk007]

Just yesterday I asked my Doctor about this 2 day fasting and he told me don't do it and that its quackery. He said fasting puts a strain on the Kidneys and electrolytes and can lead to dehydration... However if I want to cut my caloric intake for 2 days of 7 he's fine with that just don't overdo it.

[Marlene]

I would not call it quackery. That's a bit extreme. There is a lot of research behind the various fasting type diets. The 5/2 is not a complete fast. For two days out of the week, you limit your caloric intake to 500 cal for women, 600 for men.

You do have to drink more fluids but you can choose things that have electrolytes. If you drink just black coffee or distilled water, that would not be a good choice. Just be smart about what you eat and drink for those two days. And they are nonconsecutive days. You never fast two days in a row.

In fact, John's Serum Creatinine has improved from 1.07 in 2012 to 0.96 this August 2014. His potassium, sodium, calcium and chloride have remained the same.

[sbk007]

Marlene,
He said over time it could damage the kidneys. In either case its clear that the OP has the same credibility as the guy from Nigeria who sends me emails wanting to deposit millions in my bank account..
You want "real"Quackery then read this.. the reason why everyone needs a second opinion:
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2014/09/16/oakland-county-cancer-doctor-fighting-keep-feds-email/15716679/

[Marlene]

He'd have to back that statement up and be a bit more specific. Let's face it, aging, over time, damages kidneys too. And it's pretty much a guarantee that too many calories will harm the kidneys. And...anyone with diabetes or other metabolic diseases cannot and should not attempt a fasting life style.

Just like most things, you have to do your homework and decide what's right for you.

You may want to look into the work of Dr. Valter Longo. He's been working on this since 1992. He's done work on fasting and cancer you might find interesting.

I have to agree with you on second opinions. A few years back they busted some dermatology clinics in Florida for cutting out skin cancers that didn't exist. These clinics had in-house pathology labs. So....find out where your biopsy is sent and make sure they don't have a connection to the doctor. Better yet, get a second pathology report too.

Can't let your guard down for on minute can you?

[sbk007]

Dr. Fata had over 1500 patients. He admitted to purposely misdiagnose and treat people that didn't have cancer and treat those that didn't need it. This all happened in Detroit and I just heard of it yesterday on yahoo news not important enough for the national news.

[Neil Cuadra]

Here's one of the news stories about it:
Michigan cancer doctor Farid Fata pleads guilty to 16 counts (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan-cancer-doctor-farid-fata-pleads-guilty-to-16-counts/28087698)

[sbk007]

There's an on going investigation regarding others involved. The thought is more than one person had to know what was going on so they'll probably name others. There's a support group for his patients on facebook and of course many are concerned that they received radiology or other treatments that they didn't need. Many question the doctors that sent them to him and might they have gotten a piece. Some question the hospitals they were sent to by him. It goes pretty deep. Just amazed no coverage here in NY of such a heinous crime. I mean the guy is admitting to all this stuff to avoid a trial were he'd get nailed anyway and bring down his cronies with him. Wonders never cease..

[Marlene]

He should have been charged with "attempted murder" also. The state was notified in 2010 but they could not find anything wrong. The Federal Govt finally got him.

[sbk007]

Marlene,
the Feds are trying to get him for murder or medical terrorism.
They are seeking a life sentence. I don't think they'll show any mercy for this guy. They are looking to fry him. Deservingly so. Now, the question is how far the conspiracy goes as they strongly believe other doctors were involved. His staff ended up blowing the whistle on him.
Ironically, One of his patients was treated for a cancer he didn't have and developed a blood disease from the chemo. ANother guy also with no eveidence of cancer lost his legs, and one lost a kidney.

[Chirley]

I personally know someone who's doing the 5/2 regime. He's really thin. Says he's trying to be healthy....smokes a pack a day!

[nabhi]

Ofcourse cancer cure is not an easy task. But there are many people who survive either with chemo / radio / alternate therapy. Each path has its own pros and cons. When legally no one can claim to cure CANCER, even the anticancer drugs approved to extend the life but not cure.

Here in Bangalore we offer turmeric and ginger based FOOD therapy with technological advancement. We don't claim cure, but if you are undergoing CTRT, it can provide multiple benefits of reducing hospital stay, pain, reduced drug requirement, reduced infection, increased efficacy of CTRT, reduced side effects of CTRT.

If you have doubt about CHEMO /RADIO success, you can include this Nutritional Therapy to increase the success rate.

If you don't have any option of therapy available, then also you can have best benefits.

The person working for this that is me; is not registered Ayurveda or Homeopathy or Sidda or Unani Physician. I am a pharmacologist cum Drug Discovery Scientist.

I don't charge any amount for consultation. I am more than happy to educate about the various alternate options available to save their life like

1. Ketogenic Therapy
2. Fasting Therapy
3. Alkalanising Therapy
4. Hyperthermia Therapy
5. Hyperbarric oxygen therapy
6. Anti angiogenic Therapy
7. Vitamin C Therapy
8. Anti-oxidants Therapy
9. Immunomodulator Therapy
10. Chilly Therapy

You can avail printouts of research reference articles or get them emailed after discussion.

There are many therapies which doesn't even cost a penny except learning. Don't give up the hope. My aim is to provide

HOPE WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE

You can call +91 88845 88835 if not answered, please leave message.

My friends wife from Sikkim has been to diagnosed to have AML for last 6 months. She has undergone several chemos now. Now doctor has said nothing much can be done and given some medicine. BMT was due and doctor cancelled it and said that it is not necessary and asked them to go home.
I thought they should start these suggestions that you have provided. Please forward me the methods / articles so that i can forward them / suggest and teach them these methods ..
Thanks in advance.
Nabhiraj, KOlkata, India

[nabhi]

Ofcourse cancer cure is not an easy task. But there are many people who survive either with chemo / radio / alternate therapy. Each path has its own pros and cons. When legally no one can claim to cure CANCER, even the anticancer drugs approved to extend the life but not cure.

Here in Bangalore we offer turmeric and ginger based FOOD therapy with technological advancement. We don't claim cure, but if you are undergoing CTRT, it can provide multiple benefits of reducing hospital stay, pain, reduced drug requirement, reduced infection, increased efficacy of CTRT, reduced side effects of CTRT.

If you have doubt about CHEMO /RADIO success, you can include this Nutritional Therapy to increase the success rate.

If you don't have any option of therapy available, then also you can have best benefits.

The person working for this that is me; is not registered Ayurveda or Homeopathy or Sidda or Unani Physician. I am a pharmacologist cum Drug Discovery Scientist.

I don't charge any amount for consultation. I am more than happy to educate about the various alternate options available to save their life like

1. Ketogenic Therapy
2. Fasting Therapy
3. Alkalanising Therapy
4. Hyperthermia Therapy
5. Hyperbarric oxygen therapy
6. Anti angiogenic Therapy
7. Vitamin C Therapy
8. Anti-oxidants Therapy
9. Immunomodulator Therapy
10. Chilly Therapy

You can avail printouts of research reference articles or get them emailed after discussion.

There are many therapies which doesn't even cost a penny except learning. Don't give up the hope. My aim is to provide

HOPE WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE

You can call +91 88845 88835 if not answered, please leave message.

Hello There - I know because I have had direct contact with James Vaidyan and went through the experience. I used the word "seems" as each case and treatment is different. Remember MDS is not a disease but relates to a collection of blood-related diseases. I just wanted to "alert" members of this forum trying to find alternate treatments for their loved ones of the associated costs but I did not want to "discourage" anybody that can afford it. As for the costs, I also clearly indicated that the common man in India cannot afford Ayurveda medicines costing Rs. 1000 per day. However Mr Vidyan has several clients mostly foreign nationals on medical tourism or NRI's who can easily afford his treatment. Probably his treatment is also working but I do not know for sure and cannot comment on that.

I also totally agree that for people who can afford, in your words "hundreds of thousands if not millions", $200 is pocket-change- nothing more than a drop in the ocean.

My loved one is battling MDS but we are unable to afford James Vaidyan's experimental treatment at this stage. "hundreds of thousands if not millions" and/or Rs. 1000/day for an experimental treatment which in Mr Vaidyan's own words may not work, is beyond our humble means.

This was my personal experience with Mr Vaidyan's treatment. We look forward to your "complete opinions" on how this treatment including costs worked in your case. Peace!


Joe Smith: Me and my friends are closely working with really needy patients in kolkata, India. They are undergoing conventional treatment. The bed charges are 1500 INR per day. Some injections are nearly 5000 INR each and AML patients need 2-3 per day. They need blood frequently where the hospital charges the patients 2700 INR per unit. We have donated about 70 units to two patients. Some of them have been adviced BMT. each BMT cost varies between 12,00,000 INR to 24,00,000 ($ 18500 to $37000). So I guess Vaidyan charges are simply peanuts...
I dont think the range of charges he is charging is really a big one..

[Shashikumar]

We had tried ayurvedic medicine of Mr.James Vaidyan for my child having AML. We had given him one chemotherapy and his second chemotherapy was planned after 10 days. But my wife insisted to give him James Vaidyan's Ayurvedic treatment instead of chemo after seeing his only POSITIVE testimonials on his web site and speaking to his patients. His medicine didn't worked and due to delay of 1 month in trying his medicine my son's AML disease relapsed and finally he expired as doctors said he had only 15-20% chance of survival. Today we repent ourselves after this irreparable loss that we should had completed full course of chemotherapy and then only tried his medicine. Also he is very expensive, I spent 1 lakh rupees on his medicine for 1 month. He is so stingy that after paying him so much he will ask us to pay for his taxi fare. Even when my sons report showed AML relapse, he says his nadi pariksha shows no sign of disease. My sons platelets was continuously droping in his treatment, but he used to always say his bone marrow will take some time to recoup and finally disease relapsed. He cannot understand fully the terms used in CBC reports, so he cannot give u timely advise also.
Overall my experience says do not rely on him if you have more chances of saving with chemotherapy. Later on you can try alternative treatments.

[Shashikumar]

It appears that Mr Vaidyan has managed to get a strong clientele of foreign patients and now he charges astronomical prices that are for sure out of the reach of the common man in India. Examples include demanding INR 10,000 (equivalent to $175 to $200) for a 10-day experimental treatment with no clarity on what the total treatment will cost. It is sad that patients and their loved ones are already undergoing so much physical and mental torture and then to have the stress of an unknown treatment with unknown costs is just not humane!!

We had tried medicine of James Vaidyan for my child having AML. We had given him one chemotherapy and his second chemotherapy was planned after 10 days. But my wife insisted to give him James Vaidyan's Ayurvedic treatment instead of chemo after seeing his ONLY positive testimonials on his web site. His medicine didn't worked and due to delay of 1 month in trying his medicine my son's AML disease relapsed and finally he expired as doctors said due to replase he had now only 15-20% chance of survival. Today we repent ourselves after this irreparable loss that we should had completed full course of chemotherapy and then only tried his medicine. Also he is very expensive, I had spent 1 lakh Indian rupees on his medicine for 1 month. He is so stingy that after paying him so much he will ask us to pay for his taxi fare upto airport. Even when my sons reports showed AML relapse, he says his nadi pariksha does not show any sign of disease. He cannot properly guide you about the blood reports also. Even when my son's platelets were continuously dropping during his treatment, he used to always says it will take some time for my son's bone marrow to recoup.
My experience says do not completely rely on him if you have more chances of saving with chemotherapy. Complete the curative treatment then only try for any other alternative medicine.

[ritu]

Hey vaidyan give me ur id and where can i get this treatment ?

Hi Neel

Where are you getting the treatment done in India for MDS. I am also from Delhi. Really worried for my mom
Regards

[skauri]

For my sister. 39 years old, modern line of treatment of AML miserably failed, even to achieve remission. The month long treatment (that included 3+7 chemo and subsequent ITU support because of post-chemo complications) at an ultramodern hospital only did severe damage to her health and of course handed out an astronomically high bill. Also the doctors (of international reputation!) clearly told that at her current health condition she cannot take further chemo at least for 2 months.

In our desperation we ran from pillar to post and while looking up for alternative treatments came across Vaidyan James' website. And to cut a long short, after 45 days my sister achieved complete remission with absolutely normal CBC parameters!!! And all is done from her own home without any painful chemical/procedures and at a fraction of the cost. Leave alone any painful side effects - she actually seem to be having improved health.

We are yet to see how it works out in the long run but what is achieved so far is nothing short of a miracle!

Well, I believe in no miracle; I think it is our ignorance that makes certain things seem like miracle. It is just science, only in waiting to be discovered by modern scientific methods.

Also, friends, I want you to note that there is difference between science and medical/pharmaceutical industry. Science aims to uncover truths and serve humanity but industries serve their investors. In current age of market economy balance sheets seem to be much more important than human suffering or even lives! So vested interests are working hard to suppress/condemn alternative medicines. Learnt that the hard way. I did go through a lot of articles and information before we could take the tough decision to move away from the conventional and convenient (for our "scientific"" mind) linetreatment.

That's my experience. I have gone through the same pain, anxiety and hopelessness that you are going through. Hope you find this useful. Best wishes!

[ritu]

Hi Skauri

How is your sister doing now. My mother is suffering from MDS and need advise on alternative treatment.

[skauri]

Hi Skauri

How is your sister doing now. My mother is suffering from MDS and need advise on alternative treatment.

Hi Ritu,
Yes, my sister is doing very well. Fortnightly blood reports are all good and she generally feels and looks healthy. But treatment needs to be continued and she is still under certain restrictions (part of the ongoing treatment).
Hope that helps.
My best wishes.
- Sourabh

[ritu]

Hi Sourabh

Can I speak to you please. Kindly share your number.

Regards
Ritu

[skauri]

Hi Sourabh

Can I speak to you please. Kindly share your number.

Regards
Ritu

Hi Ritu,

I have shared my number on your Gmail address. Sorry for the delayed response.

Regards,
Sourabh

[Nithin]

For my sister. 39 years old, modern line of treatment of AML miserably failed, even to achieve remission. The month long treatment (that included 3+7 chemo and subsequent ITU support because of post-chemo complications) at an ultramodern hospital only did severe damage to her health and of course handed out an astronomically high bill. Also the doctors (of international reputation!) clearly told that at her current health condition she cannot take further chemo at least for 2 months.

In our desperation we ran from pillar to post and while looking up for alternative treatments came across Vaidyan James' website. And to cut a long short, after 45 days my sister achieved complete remission with absolutely normal CBC parameters!!! And all is done from her own home without any painful chemical/procedures and at a fraction of the cost. Leave alone any painful side effects - she actually seem to be having improved health.

We are yet to see how it works out in the long run but what is achieved so far is nothing short of a miracle!

Well, I believe in no miracle; I think it is our ignorance that makes certain things seem like miracle. It is just science, only in waiting to be discovered by modern scientific methods.

Also, friends, I want you to note that there is difference between science and medical/pharmaceutical industry. Science aims to uncover truths and serve humanity but industries serve their investors. In current age of market economy balance sheets seem to be much more important than human suffering or even lives! So vested interests are working hard to suppress/condemn alternative medicines. Learnt that the hard way. I did go through a lot of articles and information before we could take the tough decision to move away from the conventional and convenient (for our "scientific"" mind) linetreatment.

That's my experience. I have gone through the same pain, anxiety and hopelessness that you are going through. Hope you find this useful. Best wishes!

Hi There, Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm desperately in search of alternate medicine and have read about James Vaidyan. I have tried contacting him through his website http://www.jamesvaidyanhealing.com/ and emailing to vedic_healer@yahoo.com & jamesvaidyan365@gmail.com but haven't heard anything. It will much appreciated if you can share best contact details to engage Mr. Vaidyan. I'm from Melbourne and would require contact details to initiate contact and eventually his treatment. Any help and direction will be great.